So you're just running away?

[shadow_hive]

Will someone explain to me what the fuck I just watched?

So the whole point of those 5 episodes was just to fuck Jack over? It's not enough for him to lose Ianto oh no, he's gotta sacrifice his grandson too (using a logic similar to what he used way back in Small Worlds). Gwen's right about the Doctor I think. And I hope to fuck that chick doesn't get to be PM. At least Lois is free and Bridget and Frobisher saw sense. I loved how Andy took a stand too. It seems even Johnson hated what they were doing, which is at elast something.

Before this started I was really hoping for a series 4. I was looking forward to another 13 episodes of Jack/Ianto and other goodness but now.... Well, like Mikey said, they've ruined it. These last episodes have been what you'd expect if a show was being axed. It's likely we'll only see Jack again in Doctor Who and probably Torchwood won't come back unless something happens at the rift in the show (or the world gets taken again). Days 1-3 were good, really good but the last two just... destroyed it.

Today's been boring other then that. I may return to writing later and should be on Wii soon. I finally saw a genie in AC.

Swine flu is here in the local schools. Worst is one that's only a stone's throw from nan's care home. That worries me more then anything. It seems to only kill the weakest that contract it and, well, she's weak anyway.

Comments

[sweethoneyno1.livejournal.com]

I'm really glad Ianto didn't see Jack do that

[shadow-hive.livejournal.com]

Yeah:(

[antontobias86.livejournal.com]

In the end though, Frobisher killed himself and his whole family for nothing. I don't like that.

I really don't see how they can make a season 4 now. It really is as if they're making the path towards the axe.

*hugs Titch* I really hope she doesn't get it in a way.

...That sounds like a horrible thing for me to say, but I don't mean it to... I hope you get what I mean by it.

[shadow-hive.livejournal.com]

I know :( Still, he didn't know at the time.

I dunno either:(

Me too:(

I do too

[never-coming-bk.livejournal.com]

we have a confirmed case of swine flu in our year.
I hate the girl anyway, but still :/ I don't wish it on her.

I knowwww about Torchwood. I was like 'what..the actual... fuck.'

[shadow-hive.livejournal.com]

:( Eeep hide from her?

Me tooo

[chainer-morgana.livejournal.com]

WTF????
I got the wrong file, right? 'coz they seriously can't fuck up so big with just an episode...WTF??
The moral is that , as he says himself, Jack is gonna killor hurt whoever is around him? That he has to save the world and in change he'll just have pain and kill the ones he loves?
No really, I don't get it, it really doesn't make sense to me what they did with this serie.
It was a really good season, maybe the best one, and they pathetically ruined it.
I didn't even like that Frobisher killed his family and himself...enough with that self sacrificing shit, really.
I'm disapointed and sad (and want Ianto back!!)

oh, sorry to hear about the swuine...:( We had a few cases here in Italy, a few in schools too, but no one died, they were all ok in the end.. and don't worry, it's not so travel to fast, it's not really a big epidemy, nan should be safe ;)

*hugs*

[shadow-hive.livejournal.com]

That's what I was thinking!
Jack saves the world countless times and all he gets as thanks is pain. Not fair at all
Yeah, they did. Bah/
Yeah
I do too!

That''s scary! I hope so

[balthamos-1987.livejournal.com]

I think that days four and five were two of the best episodes that Torchwood has ever produced, and certainly some of the most gripping drama that I have seen from a TV show this year. I mean, you only have to take a look at that scene around the table last night when they were all discussing the best way to choose the ten percent. On paper, that would probably seem like the dullest scene ever, but when acted, directed and written in the way that it was, it was gripping stuff. The same with the scene with Forbisher tonight when he closed the door and killed his family.

I think the show could return, but with a shake up, which is what usually happens in a fourth series anyway ... for me it's far from ruined. They can go anywhere with it now, and I can't wait to see what they do next - if it returns.

[shadow-hive.livejournal.com]

I think they were good, but their endings were just... ugh. Those scenes both were good. I found myself talking at the tv *blush*

I dunno if that big a shake up is any good though. Has anything ever done that?

[balthamos-1987.livejournal.com]

I was literally on the edge of my seat during that scene when they were talking about who to choose.

Well, these are a few examples from American shows, but RTD is heavily influenced by them anyway, so I guess it is not a big jump:

The most notable one was Charmed. They sacked one of their leads at the end of season three and brought in a completely new character. Then there was Buffy. In season four they moved to completely new location (which, of course, they had to do, because they had left High School - plus they blew it up!), which really changed the dynamic of the show because it was something that we were not used to. And then Desperate Housewives brought in a new main housewife to the cast and then in the next season killed off one of the original ones.

Sure, they are not always the biggest of shakeups, but then, nor is this Torchwood one. If we look at it from this series alone, they have only killed off this one character. And then in the overview they have killed four. This is not really any different from most other shows out there. In fact, I actually applaude shows when they do it. It really does show guts. I LOVED Tosh, but really praised the show when they killed her off because it showed that they were not afraid to do so.

I had recently heard rumours that JB was planning to quit the role of Jack. I really hope that this series was not leading up to him doing so ... there is so much more story to tell ...

[shadow-hive.livejournal.com]

Me too.

*nods a little*

I don't mind when shows kill characters off (ok it makes me sad and all but...) but this series we only started off with three characters to begin with, then you kill one off and you've left with two. While most series do kill of 4 (or more) characters I've never seen so many killed so close together (appart from maybe a series finale). And yeah, I think Ianto didn't get enough time of his own in series 1 and 2 and I hoped in 4 he'd get a lot more to do with the reduced line-up and all but now... I loved Tosh too and I was sad by her sudden death but at least hers had a meaning where as Ianto's... didn't really.

If he did then that means series 4 (if it happened) would just start off with Gwen being the only Torchwood member left. So that means that most of the 4th series would be dealing with whichever new people they bought in. Even if existing characters joined the team (Andy, Rhys, Lois, Martha etc) you'd still need an episode for each one to get more invested in them and learn more about them and that would take up, like, the first half of the series. And I have a feeling they'd put someone new in as well.

Anyway... yeah, I've sorta rambled a little haven't I? Oopsie.

[balthamos-1987.livejournal.com]

But again, it all stemmed down to the fact that Jack was responsible for it. Probably in less of a way than he was with Tosh's, but he was still responsible. Although he seems to be becoming more like the Doctor now, which I am not sure that I like.

If they do do a series four, then I have no idea where they would go with it, really. But it could be cool. I guess I am just more for shakeups than most people.

Haha! No, not at all! It's good to debate like this. That's what the best episodes do to people! :D

[shadow-hive.livejournal.com]

Yeah. I don't like that they essentially destoyed all Jack had. Why can't one series of Doctor Who/Torchwood end on a happy note?

Maybe. I think it's just been too drastic.

It is? Yay!